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Rating: 4.60 out of 94 votes cast
I just received this watch, after it was on backorder for a month. the quality in this watch is the best. for the price, this watch looks like a 500 dollar watch. really thick case but feels good on the wrist. defintely worth the wait. you dont see this quality in this cheap ($$) of a watch price. defintely recommend buying!!!!!
I find it Unique
A really cool watch, for the history buff, but it is as big as a wall clock. It feels like I''m wearning a wall clock on my wrist- a nice one- but a wall clock none the less. I will resever wearing it for special occassions; too bad too, becuase it is a perpetual wind. Because of the sheer size of the thing (much bigger than similiar class watches) I would rate it average oveall.
This is a great looking watch, but you cannot tell from the pictures how large it is. My first thought was they sent me a watch for giant (I am 5''10" and 190 lbs). Not only is the face huge, but it is extremely thick (approx 1/2 "). I cannot wear it with some of my long sleeve shirts because I have difficulty buttoning the cuffs.
I am a watch collector. This is currently my favorite. Enough said!!!
the piture does not do it justice.... it''s an awesome watch... worth every penny... get one before there gone...
Drexel hill, PA
The Meisterzeit Timepiece is a beautiful watch. I have received many compliments on the watch. What a great addition to any watch collection.
Stauer Meisterzeit II Watch
I received this as a gift from my brother. He gave it as a birthday present. Classy and practical at the same time.
It is the most beautiful watch I have ever owned but it is enormous. If they slim it down it would be great. I am exchanging it for a smaller one.
Meisterzeit II Watch
Timepiece is excellent. A really nice example of old world craftsmanship.
Huge watch, good value but gains time
I received this watch three months ago, and think it is really beautiful. It is too large for daily use, so it stays on my Stauer watch winder most of the time, where I admire it. It gains about one minute per week, which I consider acceptable for a mechanical watch, but it is not as accurate as my other Stauers. It is more accurate than my 74 year old Wyler, and I am certain it is much more accurate than the 86 year old watch that was it''s inspiration. If you are a collector this is a must for you! If this is your primary watch, it may not be the perfect fit for you.
NICE LOOKING TIME PIECE
I WOULD BUY ONE BUT THE WATCH IS TO THICK I AM LOOKING FOR A THINE WATCH. MY BAND IS A SPECIAL MADE ONE OF METAL. I LIKE THE DIAL.
Stauer Meiserzeit II
This is an absolutely beautiful time piece. Very impressive. Gave it to my godson for his 18th birthday and it was the gift he was most excited about. I only wish there was a ladies version........Would buy it in a heartbeat.
It has been years since I have worn a watch. I only buy when something uniquely catches my eye. This watch is beautiful and I am constantly getting comments about it. Even I enjoy constantly looking at the glimmering deep blue and gold.
Worth every penny
I must admit I was skeptical when I saw the original price of 495 dollars. When the watch arrived all skepticism went out the window. This watch could easily sell for the original price and is worth far more than 95 dollars with 27 jewels. The watch band alone could easily sell for 25 - 30 dollars. To say the least, I am extremely impressed and do not regret the purchase one bit. Thanks Stauer!!!!
Mind boggling buy
I''ve owned many watches in my lifetime, including Rolexe. This watch is gorgeous. There is nothing cheap about this watch except the price. I was amazed to see it has a sapphire crystal, not something you would expect to see on a watch of this price. The case is gold plated, not gold colored. The biggest plus is that it''s a mechanical watch. How do you build something of this quality and sell it for this price? Think about the real value of a Rolex that doesn''t keep any better time than this beautiful watch. Way to go guys. This won''t be my last Stauer watch!
Colorado Springs, CO
I like the way it looks from the front, excellent crafmanship,it''s just doble the thickness of a dress watch, but I''ll keep it anyway, some day I''ll wear it.
I collect watches , AND THIS WATCH NEXT TO SOME OF MY 800 AND 1000 DOLLAR WATCHES FALES RIGHT IN WITH THEM.I LOVE THIS WATCH.THOSE WHO SAY IT''S LIKE A WALL CLOCK ON THERE WRIST DON''T KNOW WATCH QUALITY.THEY MOST LIKELY WERE TIMEX.GREAT AND FANTASTIC WATCH ORDERED ANOTHER FOR A GIFT TO A FRIEND THAT COPLLECTS.
trinity , Florida
Stauer Meisterzeit II Watch
Yes, it takes a good-sized wrist to support this watch, but I have such a wrist and it looks great! It is a beautiful watch of substance, I enjoy looking at it, and I enjoy wearing it. This is actually the second watch. The first one would not allow me to set the date, even though I was following the directions. I contacted Stauer and explained my problem. They asked me to send the watch back, which I did, with their pre-paid label and their insurance coverage. They sent me a replacement watch which has worked perfectly.So, not only is it a fine watch but it is backed by a fine company!
Stauer Meisterzeit Timepiece
This watch is breathtaking! I bought it for a friend''s 40th wedding anniversary - he was blown away by it. I''m sure he thinks I broke the bank with this gift. However, I would suggest a slightly longer strap to accommodate a man with a husky build. It worked for him, but just barely with very little overlap to spare. Nevertheless, it looked great on him and his wife was also very impressed.
Best Gift Ever
My grandmother made my grandfather get it for her. But being as old as she is, she couldn''t stand the weight. So she gave it to me. I love it. Once you get used to the weight it is comfotable and you admirer the beauty of it. I wish I could put a black strap on it, but I love braging to friends that I don''t have to wind it and it doesn''t use batteries. To my surprise it is evenn waterproff. Now I don;''t even have to pull out a cell phone to tell time or date. Just look at this shining gold thing on my wrist.
This is a beautiful watch. Yes it is large, but still elegant. However, if you want to use all its features you best have sharp eyes. While the month and week day dials can be seen in bright light, the date window is so small it is useless. My Rollex oyster overcomes this by having a larger window, covered by a magnifier molded into the crystal. Personally I usually know what month it is, and would gladly sacrifice the month dial for a legible date.
Best Watch for the $
I am a collector of Fine watches. This STAUER line is the best money can buy for an elegent time piece with quality, precision, looks,and satisfaction. I wear these pieces more than my $1000.00 + watches !!
Indianapolis IN 10/23/10
Great looking watch, very classy and professional.
this watch is a beutiful master piece
what a watch
I have had the watch for about 2 months. It has by far exceeded my expectations. The quality, style and look are second to none. Since i purchased this watch i have bought 2 other models and am extremely satisfied...thank you stauer for making such a quality product
oro valley arizona
One Sweet Watch
This watch is beautiful. I love everything about it. Yes it is a big watch it''s a MAN''s watch. Very well made you just have to hold it to know that. My first watch from Stauer definitely not my last.
Rochester, New York
Great watch for men.
I bought this watch about a year ago and I still like it ( :-) ) Really very nice looking watch with very good quality and movement. Yes this is a big, thick box. But, before placing your order read the first description and highlights. If the size is not a big problem for you - buy it. I have only one concern. Why 4 o’clock number looks like (IIII) instead of normal (IV)? But, for sure, I''m fine with that.
Los Angeles, CA
My Favorite watch
I got mine 6 months ago & it is now my favorite. The day hand moves fwd some times early but that''s no problem, keeps good time. This is my second Stauer.
My girlfriend gave me this watch as a gift. Truthfull, she told me she had trouble deciding on just one from this company. Since it was a gift, I was not a part of the purchase process. She told me how great the customer service was in working with her to get "just the right watch" for me on her limited budget. I love this watch! I happen to be a history buff and have an appreciation for watches. I wear it for special occasions and on days off. One of the drawbacks to this watch is that it is too nice to wear on patrol and risk being destroyed (I''ve broken more than one watch that way). I''ve seen some reviews that complain about the size of the watch. For me, it is a great fit. However, I have big hands and almost Popeye like forearms so the size may not be for everyone. The only drawbacks I see to the watch are of personal preferance. I usually wear a metal bracelet band and am not used to the leather band. I also can''t tell time in the dark with it but changing that would change the historical accuracy.
REALLY NICE WATCH
This is a very nice and elegant looking watch. The instructions for setting it were simple and easy to follow, unlike instructions I have seen for other watches. I may, however, have to get a watch winder for it for night-time when I am asleep. I like the large face and colors. The only complaint I have is that the date window is very small.
I LOVE THIS WATCH! WORTH 10 TIMES MORE THAN THE PRICE!!
Much Better than expected
I first saw this watch in my auto magazine, and loved it but would not order it because of the price. I figured it must be junk at this price. I don''t buy watches at less than $500. My wife bought this for me for X-mas, and I am floored. The detail is incredible, this is now by far the favorite of my collection. Just buy it, the seams and button are tight, and it presents like a watch that costs thousands. For those who complain that it is too thick or big, it is a MANS watch. If you have dainty wrists look elsewhere. It is big, commanding, and one of the best looking watches I have seen
I Haven''t even seen my watch yet, I ordered it the 22nd, selected the 3-10 days shipping, and the address I had it shipped to received the package yesterday,(23rd). I''m beyond impressed with the customer service and amazing people behind Stauer, getting the watch to me in a little over a day seems incredible, especially since I received the shipping confirmation email this morning!I know this isn''t a review for the watch, though I have held one and worn one before, I love the watch, and can''t wait to have in my on wrist.
I just got this watch for Christmas and it is great. It''s a little big but it looks really nice, only problem I see is that it doesn''t light up at night but I can get passed that.
Beautiful watch.The mechanisms are stiff (the day dial and the three crown positions do not operate smoothly)but they do function. Overall, the watch is gorgeous and makes a statement. Great for the price.
My wife gave me this watch for Christmas, so I have only owned it a week. It is the most attractive watch I have ever owned. I never owned an automatic (self-winding) watch before.The day and month dials add to its allure. With a magnifying glass, you can fully appreciate its 1/5 second gradations and the fine scrolling pattern on its face. For the geek, it is kind of cool to see the internal workings through the window in the back.This watch is bigger than I expected; I have a medium-sized wrist, but perhaps someone with a narrow wrist might not like it. I tend to bump the buttons which changes the day and monthdials, and the small day of month window is hard to read.I expect to wear my Meisterzeit every day, except when I am doing something which wouldrisk scratching it.
Beautiful, Great Value!
Very elegant watch! Extremely good value for money. Reading some of the reviews...I was concerned about the size. Not to worry though, no bigger than Breitling, Fossil, Armani, etc...I think the vintage styling rocks!
Won''t Be Late For Work!
My thoughtful wife gave me this watch for Christmas and I really do love it . . . except for one thing - it gains about 2+ minutes/week, so I won''t have any excuse for being late for work! It''s not bothering me enough to send it back but I do need to reset on a regular basis. All-in-all though, its a nice thing to show off, and it gets me to work on time - I''ve been elected as the guy to put on the coffee at the office too!
Cape Breton, Canada
Love at first sight!!!
I was amazed by this watch.When I first opened it I knew I made the right choice. Great Watch....Great Price...Great Quality...I didn''t find the watch too bulky. It''s just perfect!!!!!!!!
West New York, NJ
I love the look of the gold with blue accents. Smooth second hand movement. However the "Day Corrector Knob" gets stuck if pushed repeatedly.
OK, but only OK
This timepiece has a unique shape that draws compliments, is easy to read in the daylight, keeps excellent time, and comes with an extra long band for those of us with thick wrists. All that and reasonably priced too. What makes it "just OK" is that the case is way too thick and there is no light or luminous dial for the 12 hours of darkness. Still, it''s not a bad watch, only clunky
I purchased this watch for my son as a Christmas present and he loves the watch. I was very impressed with the quality for the price. I will purchase many more items from this company.
Stauer Meisterzeit Time Piece
Outstanding workmanship in a watch that is so affordable.
JUST AS ADVERTISED , BEAUTIFUL , FUNCTIONAL AND PRACTICAL SIZE FOR A DRESS WATCH .
MERCERVILLE , NJ
Great Looking and Unique, but
This is a great replica in every detail. It is great looking on the wrist. It is overly thick though and could use some luminosity on the hands to aid in night time viewing.
Boca Raton, FL
meisterzet ii watchi
have 3 stauer watches. this is my favorit.had more complements then i can remember.it''s a beauty!
w p beach fl.
i have received a lot of compliments about the beautiful watch.
I just recieved my Meisterzeit today and I was blown away by the quality and craftsmanship of this piece. I am a craftsman myself so I know a little about quality and you will not be dissapointed by this watch.The face alone is stunning beyond belief for a watch available at this cost. All I can say is, buy this watch today, you will not be dissatisfied in the least.
A BEAUTIFUL TIMEPIECE .LOOKS LIKE A MILLION BUCKS .EACH TIME I WEAR IT QUESTIONS ABOUND .MY FIRST STAUER , WILL NOT BE MY LAST .
MERCERVILLE , NJ
Stauer Meisterzeit is anexcellent watch
I read some of the reviews before I ordered the watch and had doubts about it, mainly as it relates to the size and thickness. Although not a thin watch it was a wonderful and pleasant surprise when I received it; it is elegant and an attractive timepiece - thank you Stauer for making such an excellent and yet affordable timepiece.
Kelowna, BC, Canada
STAUERS ARE GOOD VALUE FOR THE MONEY
I LOVE STAUER WATCHES. WHERE ELSE CAN YOU GET CLASSIC VINTAGE STYLING FOR THEIR PRICE. SO MY STAUER RUNS A MINUTE OR TWO OFF PER DAY. AT THEIR PRICE I CAN TOLERATE IT. AFTER ALMOST A YEAR I SENT ONE OF MY STAUERS BACK TO BE FIXED AND THEY SENT ME A NEW WATCH!
Meisterzeit and Graves Watches
I own both and I love them. I receive numerous comments from friends and they want to see them close up and are impressed with the looks and the movements. i am a big man and the watches suit me perfectly. I have owned a Stauer watch since 2004. To keep them accurate while not wearing them, a winder is recommended.
I''ve got a nice collection of watches, but this one blows them all away. It has such a rich look that I think I might have to go buy a new suit to go with it! Everything about this watch says class! From the unique shape, to the beautiful face, and the sub-dials. Best money I''ve ever spent.
I love this watch! Large and comfortable. Beautiful on the wrist!
looks like a watch that should cost $1,000 or more. i love it!
When I opened the case with the watch I was so haappy with what I found inside. This watch looks very expensive and has great detail work. I bought it for my bf''s graduation and when he saw it he was taken a back. In fact I have noticed that he wears to bed and in the shower b/c he loves it so much. The case is thick as others have eluded but I don''t think it falls in the "wall clock" category. It is a good size watch but not huge like some of the rappers'' watches out there..... The only issue I have noticed and I am not sure if this is a mistake on our end is that the automatic movement stops shortly after the watch is taken off of the wrist. I will try to pre-wind it a few more times and hope that helps. Overall a great buy and def has a wow factor! :)
San Diego, CA
`This was extremely helpful. I decided not to get a particular watch due to it''s size and chose another one from the company. Thank you for helping me not to make a mistake. Thanks
Ore City, Texas
A real attention getter.
What an awesome top quality watch. The compliments abound. I am so glad that I found Stauer.
The timekeeping mechanism is good, but the other three dials do not work on auto. The watch is a handsome piece, but I am not a happy camper.
Great watch - unbelievable looks
I have dealt with Stauer, and own a couple watches from Stauer. It has been a pleasant experience so far.I have used the Meisterzeit for about 6 months now - as a daily "work" watch. It has done well, and looks impressive.The only fault I can find with Stauer watches, is that they seem to gain a few minutes a week - but then that is still 99.95% accurate - not shabby for a mechanical timepiece.
This has been a great watch.I use it on a daily basis at work etc. I am impressed with the looks, and have received compliments on it. I do not "take it easy" on the watch.I did make the mistake of subjecting it to a high shock force, and then it started gaining time. However, I have been successful at regulating it back to within seconds per week - not shabby for a mechanical timepiece.
I''m a watch collector and my stauers are some of my favorites, but my 2 favorite stauers at this point are my graves and this one. Fantastic watch, love the size, look, movements, and everything.
Good company, great watch!
I ordered and received one of these watches(meisterleist or whatever)and it was not to my liking. I then wrote a castigating review. After that, I called the Co. Was I embarassed? I was gently told to return it and they would send another. I did and they did and is it a wonderful watch? Yes, its big and heavy, but so are many watches of greater expense. And it looks a lot better than most of them. I''m now proud to wear it and tell, those who ask, where it came from. I may order another in the future. To recant my gripe. IT IS 100% AUTOMATIC!!!!!!!!!!!!
I got this for my husband for our 10th wedding anniversary since he is always replacing the batteries in his old watch and is fixing it all the time. I bought him another nice watch a few years ago and he only wears it for dressy occasions. He didn''t seem to like this at all. I love it! It is a bit heavy for a woman with small wrists but if I can get an expansion band put on it, I''ll wear it myself. I have a bunch of watches, all not running because they need new batteries. And I can never remember to take one to get the battery replaced. So I''m always without a watch unless it''s a new watch. I would LOVE to have a watch that never needed batteries.
This is one of the most beautiful watches I''ve ever owned. It''s very unique and has been a conversation piece among my clients. I highly recommend this watch to someone that is fashion savy.
Durham, North Carolina
Great watch - need choices!
I received my watch and so far I have worn it everyday, for the last two weeks. This watch is now the favorite in my collection. However, it would be great to have the leather band available in black. In the last ten business days I have proudly worn my "brown" watch with black shoes and black belt. Stauer - its time to re-evaluate your marketing mix!
I was absolutely amazed by the look, feel, and quality of the watch. I have had several compliments on it. Very classy look. The watch is a bit big and thick but I don''t mind and don''t find it to be a problem. I''m 5''9'', 205 pounds. I might have found it too large if I were smaller in stature. Thanks Stauer!!!
Still canbelieve the quality
I bought this when it first came out. (At the original price!)- and have never regretted it. I''m a thin watch guy-don''t even wear the Oyster because it won''t fit under the french cuffs. Neither will this one- yet at the price, I can and do wear it with everthing else. I''m 250lbs and it''s still a huge watch. But is so classic, it always looks great-with 2800.00 boots/jeans/jacket. whatever and with some high end peers-no problem...and keeps great freekin time. Which frankly is also very important. Big as it is, construction allows me to sleep with it as well (smooth). Anyway- at any price-particularly this rediculously small one, buy it- you just can''t go wrong.JP Wilkins
I ordered this watch as a Christmas gift for my boyfriend. His grandfather had one very much like it. It is clearly a watch of tremendous quality. Also the order arrived very quickly. Thanks Stauer for the great products and service.
This is my first automatic watch and WoW i fell inlove with it. Everyone i know love the look and style of this watch.
Palos Hills, Il
Keeps good time. Cheap looking hands tho
Classic looks and easy to see
I liked the classic beauty of this watch so much that I ordered two. The second is a backup for whenever the first gets too scratched up. I grew up with windup watches and love them. And this watch is an automatic - we used to term them "self winding". The face of the watch has all of the classic looks of old watches and the see through back has decoration making it a true picture window into the winding mechanism and balance wheel. All of this beauty and it tells time, date, day, and month too! Even with my aging eyes, I can easily read the small dials and date. This is a great watch value and I expect to enjoy my two for many years.
I received this timepiece as a gift. I have several wrist watches, including other automatics, and this one is simply outstanding. Its look is very appealing and each function was easily adjusted.
My wife got me this watch as a Christmas present (I picked it out) and I absolutely love it. My eyes are going so the date window is tricky but I know what the date is usually anyway. It would be nice if the hands were illuminated but it''s not essential. I rate this timepiece at a solid 95% if not higher. It''s light weight and looks incredible !
Great Style and Function
I''m only sorry I didn''t order this watch first! I have 3 Stauer watches and this is one is real class! I''d give it 5 stars but it''s difficult to see the date window. I another automatic watch from Stauer (among the 4) but this one I wear quite often work, play, dress! By the way, I''m awaiting the arrival of another Stauer!!
Would be nearly perfect I one could read the date in this tiny window.
Watch Receives Tons of Compliments
As a watch collector, I purchased this watch almost two years ago and receive more compliments on this particular watch than any other. My boss loved this watch so my team colleagues are planning to buy this for his birthday in the spring. It has an antiqued 1920s/30s quality that looks great. The case is very unique in size and the watch falls perfectly on the wrist. You can dress it up or down. Looks great with a suite or jeans. The only thing I would suggest is that you use a burnished brown crocodile leather strap instead of burgundy. I think it would look better. Other than that, this is my favorite everyday watch to wear. Your timepieces feature great style at an amazing value. Keep up the good work!
White Plains, N.Y.
Some complain it''s too heavy but I like it, it makes a statement. I have no idea how a quality watch as handsome as this one can be bought for $100 , amazing. Day and month are a little tough to read and the date window is so small its virtually useless. Don''t need a month dial would rather have had just the day and date larger and easier to read. These are small complaints for a watch that could easily pass for a $1000 watch. Great job Stauer.
Glens Falls NY
Beautiful watch for the money but the watch is very very heavy and difficult to slip under my shirt cuff. The day and month dials are cool but unnecessary and difficult to read. The date window is so small its virtually impossible to read. For the money it''s still a strikingly beautiful watch but I find it difficult to wear it every day.
Glens Falls New York
Beautiful, but a bit slow.
This is my first automatic mechanical watch. It was a gift from my wife for our 3rd anniversary (we bought each other watches with a leather band) It''s a beautiful watch, I''ve worn this as my regular watch for the last two years, and and I love it.Only one issue with it--it tends to slow down after a while. Even if I''m wearing it consistently on a daily basis, I find that after a month or two it''s gotten 5 minutes behind. So I''m readjusting it about once a month.I''m not sure if this is a problem with just my watch, or if it''s a problem with all automatic mechanicals, but I''m thinking of putting this one away except for occasions that call for beauty over functionality and getting a different one for regular use.
Winnipeg, MB, Canada
It''s a very unique and handsome watch and I''ve received a number of compliments on it. The hands could be a tad larger, and the date window is so tiny as to be unreadable. Either make it bigger or don''t even bother. You need a magnifying glass to read it.
It''s a big watch that makes a big statement. The quality is beyond what I expected. I received as a gift and will buy more Stauer watches. This watch feels great on the wrist. The watch has weight and a great strap. It feels better than my Rolex Submariner. Love it!
Bay City, MI
A year ago I bought a couple of these watches. One copy of the watches functions acceptable, second copy stops of stochastic. Looks watches superb, although too large thickness, the quality varies from copy to copy.
Band Does Not Due Justice To The Watch
Beautiful Watch! Cheap Band!!!!!Forget the fake alligator print, just put a quality brown leather band on the watch.
This watch is very expensive looking but do not be afraid of it's low cost. If you are used to a slim watch it may seem thick at first but you get used to it. Very happy with it!
Lr. Sackville, Nova Scotia
Excellent watch for the price. I would recommend a watch winder to go with it on the days you wear a different Stauer watch like myself. The color scheme is perfect.
Rose Gold Meisterzeit
My lady presented me with the Rose Gold version of this watch for a Christmas present. It is absolutely beautiful! I especially like the contrast of the rose gold against the black face and black leather band. It keeps good time and is so attractive. It is wonderful that it has a motion winding mechanism. I couldn't be more pleased. I've got my eye on the Grandfather Pocketwatch next.
Manitou Springs, Colorado
Amazing Look, Amazing Price
I got this watch as a gift from my grandfather as a birthday gift, and I can say, it is the most beautiful watch in my collection, only surpassing my Invicta. It has a clean, authentic look to it, and the large, open face does not distract from checking the time quickly and efficiently. I was surprised to see a sapphire at the tip of the crown, but was pleased nonetheless. I anticipate wearing it whenever I get the chance, because nothing beats the classic look of an old school beauty! 10/10.
I purchased this watch because it was attractive. It is much more than that. Its accurate, attractive and comfortable. This eye catching timepiece would be a stunning addition to any collector or daily wearers agenda. I will never regret owning this.
Happy Birthday To Me!
This is the sale I was waiting for! $99 and it's a beauty. As a bonus, I was surprised to get it delivered 2nd day priority. I had originally asked for regular shipping, but since Stauer had free shipping the day after my order, I was upgraded.
Now for the watch. Those who say it's too big must be referring to thickness. My daily watch is a Casio G-Shock, so this Stauer is no problem. I've walked by jewelers and have seen watches that look like they should be around Flavor Flav's neck. I've never had an automatic, so next month I will probably get the winder. All in all, I'm pleased.
Too Much of a Good Thing
There is no doubt that this is a handsome watch.I really like the design, but it is just too big. It is not so much the length or width, but the depth that is surprising. One cannot tell from the photo in the catalog that it is thicker than the "jewel case" that hold compact discs. I suspect that to make it thinner, Stauer would have to raise the price considerably.
Finally, I find it very difficult to set the date. I wonder what the trick is! If you like big watches, you will probably like this one.
just wishing and hoping
this to me is the most beautiful of watches and i wish it were mine.